Layers 8 and 9

A comment from akatsuki regarding network neutrality left me scratching my head trying to figure out what he meant when he referred to layers 8 and 9 of the OSI stack. He pointed me in the direction of Wikipedia, which included this blurb in an entry on the OSI layer model:

The 7 layer model has often been extended in a humorous manner, to refer to non-technical issues or problems. A common joke is the 9 layer model, with layers 8 and 9 being the “financial” and “political” layers.


Network technicians will sometimes refer euphemistically to “layer-eight problems,” meaning problems with an end user and not with the network.

I must be a telecom nerd. I thought this was really very funny. Especially the notion of user error being a “layer 8 problem.”

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